Podcast: Where Are CCAs Headed Next? U.S. Navy Carriers And Swedish Runways

Listen in as editors discuss Saab’s collaborative combat aircraft (CCA) concept, Europe’s evolving uncrewed combat aircraft strategy and the U.S. Navy’s ambitious carrier-based CCA plans.

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The episode examines how collaborative combat aircraft are developing in Europe and the U.S., focusing on Saab’s Swedish concept work and the U.S. Navy’s emerging carrier-based requirements. The discussion explains how Saab’s SWAP program builds on earlier uncrewed demonstrators and explores a high-end aircraft that could eventually support a future crewed fighter. Unlike the lighter, more disposable platforms often associated with CCA, Saab’s concept appears designed for greater range, payload, survivability and operational flexibility.

The conversation compares Sweden’s needs with those of France and the U.S. Sweden and France lack fifth-generation fighters, creating pressure to use uncrewed systems to fill capability gaps, support deep strike missions and complement existing aircraft. The U.S. approach is different: CCAs are generally intended to augment advanced crewed fighters rather than replace missing capabilities.The episode then turns to the Navy’s carrier-based requirement, which appears to call for a fighter-sized uncrewed aircraft capable of carrying substantial weapons over long distances. 

This raises questions about whether the platform should still be called a CCA or whether it is more accurately described as a UCAV. The discussion traces the requirement’s connection to earlier programs such as the MQ-25, while considering carrier operations, launch systems, certification, internal weapons carriage and future air-wing composition. The episode concludes that naval aviation is entering a period of rapid change, with several major aircraft programs developing simultaneously.

Key Topics

• Saab’s SWAP concept program
• High-end versus attritable aircraft
• Sweden’s future combat air needs
• France and Europe’s capability gaps
• U.S. Air Force CCA strategy
• The Navy’s carrier-based CCA requirement
• MQ-25 and strike missions
• The future U.S. Navy air wing