Podcast: Beyond Rafale—Meet France's ACF And What It Means For GCAP

Aviation Week editors discuss the evolving European fighter landscape, introducing France’s approach to its next-generation fighter it calls ACF, and the thinking around what will happen with Germany, Spain and the implication for the GCAP program, too.

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The episode examines plans for future European combat aircraft, including France’s ACF concept, developments in the UK-led GCAP program and the state of collaborative combat aircraft projects. 

France is considering ACF, or Avion de Combat Futur, as a successor to Rafale in the 2040s or 2050s. Rafale F5 is described as a step toward that future, with planned engine, sensor, and connectivity improvements, including links to uncrewed aircraft. The discussion covers France’s interest in developing its next fighter within a national framework, while potentially allowing partners to join later. It also considers the financial and industrial challenges of proceeding independently, as well as questions about fighter availability and exports.

The conversation then turns to the possibility of Germany joining GCAP, a program involving the United Kingdom, Italy and Japan. Potential benefits and difficulties include the distribution of industrial work, the program’s schedule, and past tensions over collaboration and export approvals. Germany’s role in future combat-air projects is also considered alongside its interest in collaborative combat aircraft. Airbus has conducted flight tests with a Valkyrie aircraft and is working on autonomy systems, while government funding remains an outstanding issue. France’s separate Hyperion effort is also discussed.

The episode considers activity beyond France and Germany, including initiatives in Sweden, the Netherlands and Turkey. Spain’s future participation in European fighter efforts remains uncertain amid political changes and discussion of other aircraft options. The conversation closes by comparing GCAP’s current outlook with unresolved questions about expanding the program and coordinating additional partners.

Key Topics

• France’s ACF next-generation fighter concept
• Rafale F5 as a development bridge
• France’s independent fighter-development plans
• GCAP and possible German participation
• Industrial work share and program timelines
• European collaborative combat aircraft projects
• Germany’s Valkyrie trials and autonomy work
• Spain’s future fighter-program decisions