Podcast: High On CCAs, B-21, Space & More—The AFA Warfare Debrief

Listen in as editors reflect on program updates and other highlights from the AFA Warfare Symposium.


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The recent AFA Winter meetings provided a platform for a comprehensive debrief on major defense topics, focusing on multi-domain sensing, space capabilities, and new propulsion and aircraft programs. The discussions highlighted the importance of moving target indication (MTI) and data fusion, with an emphasis on integrating sensors across the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Space Force, and other services. 

This integration aims to transform raw data into actionable intelligence swiftly, underscoring a broader push for cross-domain, cross-service data fusion efforts. A significant portion of the conversation revolved around the tension between traditional sensor roles and the integration of space-based sensing. 

The Boeing E-7 program emerged as a focal point, with Congress adding substantial funding for prototypes, while the Air Force plans a transition to engineering and development. However, space isn't fully ready to assume the role, necessitating a balance between sustaining current capabilities and accelerating space-enabled targeting. This delicate balance reflects ongoing budgetary and technical challenges, as well as the need for strategic decision-making. The Ring Leader exercises were discussed as part of broader CJADC2 and multi-domain initiatives, emphasizing the fusion of data from air, space, ISR, IC, and commercial sensors for faster, more informed combat decisions. This cross-domain data fusion remains a central priority, with space-based sensors playing an increasingly significant role in future CJADC2 workflows. 

The discussions also touched on the growing CCA engine ecosystem, with multiple vendors pursuing next-generation propulsion for advanced or unmanned air systems. This signals a shift toward higher-volume production potential, with Rolls-Royce and other engine makers exploring new growth areas.

Modernization efforts were further highlighted through the B-52J re-engining program and the B-21 program's increased production capacity. These programs underscore a focus on scale, infrastructure, and program maturation rather than quick, single-shot buys. The B-52J program, in particular, is proceeding with concrete hardware changes and testing, aiming to bring updated propulsion and nacelles into operational service. Meanwhile, the B-21 and Sentinel programs are central to the forward-looking modernization trajectory, reflecting a commitment to enhancing defense capabilities.

The discussions concluded with a lighter note on UFO/UAP topics, with General Stephen Whiting of US Space Command addressing questions about the release of related files. While no confirmed non-human objects have been observed, there is ongoing interest in space-domain transparency. This curiosity provides a capstone to the day's discussions, highlighting the broader theme of transparency in space-related topics. Overall, the debrief reflects a strong emphasis on turning vast sensor data into timely, actionable decisions, balancing budgetary, technical, and organizational constraints.

Key Topics:

  • Opening Remarks
  • Discussion of New 'Ringleader' Effort and Drive for Rapid, Fused Sensing
  • CJADC2, DCGS, and Space-Enabled Data Fusion
  • E-7 Discussion and the Space-MTI Readiness/Timing Debate
  • CCAs  Increment Two and Engines: Scaling and Design Questions
  • Engine Ecosystem and Next-Gen Propulsion Players
  • B-21 Modernization and Sentinel Updates
  • Space Maneuverable Satellites and the UFO/UAP Aside
Robert Wall

Robert Wall is Executive Editor for Defense and Space. Based in London, he directs a team of military and space journalists across the U.S., Europe and Asia-Pacific.

Brian Everstine

Brian Everstine is the Pentagon Editor for Aviation Week, based in Washington, D.C.

Vivienne Machi

Vivienne Machi is the military space editor for Aviation Week based in Los Angeles.

Guy Norris

Guy is a Senior Editor for Aviation Week, covering technology and propulsion. He is based in Colorado Springs.