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Podcast: In Space, International Cooperation Counts

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on Oct 24, 2016

I really have to disagree with all this "sharing information" crap. The U.S. has (or at least "had") the capability to go it alone for space exploration. No other country has come close to matching the accomplishments of NASA. It's more akin to turning over internet control to 'an international body'. Why? Are we trying to make everyone else feel better to be part of it? All this "international space cooperation" has gotten us is to be reliant on the Russians for space access. If there had never been any cooperation with the ISS, does anyone think the U.S. would not have maintained access? By "sharing" and co-developing, all the U.S. is doing is further hobbling our capabilities. For a country that outspends all others on defense by an enormous amount (for little gain), saying the U.S. cannot afford to go it alone is sheer rubbish. Is all a question of priorities, numbskull non-leadership, and some unfounded idea that we should lower ourselves so as to include wannabes (EU in particular, didn't their little Mars probe just crash? - good work!).

on Oct 26, 2016

As you say it all depends on what you want to spend. Take the moon mission. In real terms the USA spent about 4 times what the USSR did. Did the USA get value for its money?? or did the USSR get better value for the money they spent on there abandoned attemp. The Shuttle. The USA had theres flying but at a cost. The USSR built theres and successfully tested it but then abandoned it for lack of money and probably because they could see from US experince it was just too costly and impractical. Who got the best value for money. The USA who persisted or Russia who gave up. Depends how much you want to pay for prestige. Just remember the ISS was in place years earlier than it could have been because Russia built the key core module and brought decades of space station experience to get it off to an early start. Was it better for the USA to share in the prestige or spend years and billions. If the USA did not go in with the Russians others would have. No prestige then for the USA for years while Russia and ??? got all the prestige and more experience. You cant win them all. More money for NASA may have helped but would they have got it right??

on Oct 24, 2016

That is damned time to for all pig headed players to realize that everyone has something to bring and make a wonderful project!!

on Oct 24, 2016

A lot of the Cold War history is still to be written or released, but the role of NASA in cooperating with the former Soviet Union seems to have worked out. I mean they did have to change and lost control of Eastern Europe, and they still cooperate more with us in Space than elsewhere. If you can work with people pointing 30,000+ nuclear warheads at you and still come out on top, suggest your strategy is not totally out to lunch. Part of being a free society is being open without being foolish. FDR, who certainly had to deal with his share of monsters both as allies and enemies in peace and war, had a saying "jaw jaw is always better than war war". We need venews to work with our friends and enemies in and if NASA can provide one while the other agencies attend to security needs more rigorously, why not. It seems to have worked out in the past.

on Oct 25, 2016

A last recent news, for the ESA director, schiarapelli is a success and it is happy, it dont care of crash in the last 30s, for him the keypoint, schiarapelli got his main objectif of collecting data of descent, of course they investigate what uppon with the lander, but mainly they analyse very important and precious data for prepare next mission, Europe work with Russian together on data sharing for the futur rover lander 2020 mission, russian share now also his own data experience with europe to and we do data comparison and reference. good progress.
Europe will learn a lot with schiarapelli, with the british mission beagle and it was not a test demostrator, Europe learn absolutly nothing because no data. Main mission continu with TGO

on Oct 25, 2016

"The U.S. has (or at least "had") the capability to go it alone for space exploration."

That was in an America 40 years past. Now everything we do must be able to be paid for with tax cuts.

It was those nasty Tax and Spend liberals who sent us to the moon.

You want space exploration? We need help from nations willing to pay for it.

on Oct 25, 2016

"A lot of the Cold War history is still to be written or released,"

You would be surprised at how much (aside from embarrassing stuff) has been released. Even most of the Soviet records were available in the 1990s.

". . . but the role of NASA in cooperating with the former Soviet Union seems to have worked out."

It certainly has, and it is still working with the Russians. The wall of sanctions and the counter sanctions wall each have a little dohicky loop exempting space flight.

"f you can work with people pointing 30,000+ nuclear warheads at you and still come out on top, suggest your strategy is not totally out to lunch."

We and the Soviets/Russians even agreed to reduce the number of warheads from the utterly insane levels of the 1960s to the mere lunatic numbers retained now. Another Nixon/Ford era strategy that worked.

"jaw jaw is always better than war war" I believe Churchill originated that saying.

"We need venews to work with our friends and enemies in and if NASA can provide one while the other agencies attend to security needs more rigorously, why not."

As the late Tom Hayden would say "Right On!"

Mars is going to be a big ticket item and everyone is going to have to chip in if Man is to make the trip.

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